You and Your Indirank
Indirank -- What does it mean to us, Indibloggers?
How do you look at them? Your standing amongst fellow Indibloggers, a matter of pride, your blog's worth may be or is it just a number for you?
An increase in Indirank is always welcome but what about a drop? Does a decrease in the rank bog you down or do you take it in your stride and motivate yourself to do better next time?
Do you have a tendency to judge other people's blog through their ranks say when promoting posts on indivine, when checking out somebody's profile or do you not notice it even?
I am curious and would really love to know what role does Indirank play in an Indibloggers life??
Please share your thoughts here
hmm for me indirank means something bright and shiny.... i luv the whole look of a star with a number...feels like the rank u used to get it school :) :) :)....am still waiting for my first indirank though :)
Aha! I see they have indicated 30th September as the expected date of update! Thanks folks for your immediate action in "Nano secs".
When the update gets delayed they should at least indicate the probable date of release instead of leaving the earlier date of update to remain on the Dashboard Indirank Stats column which still says 25th September 2011 on September 27th and no news of an Update! A pity.
Sometimes we even fall from our edge of the seats in waiting for this things called "Indirank "
Yea, unless someone does something about it... I dont think there is any scope for improvement on this one Where is our IndiPolicy Moderator - Xeno!
arti, i love the whole concept of indirank. It is something that is very unique to indiblogger , its a very motivating and encouraging tool for bloggers.I applaud the person who thought of coming up with 'indirank'.
since i have recieved only a few indiranks, i have almost forgotten the feeling of having a good indirank .
Thought of something new. I don't know if this is will bring about any difference in the late-coming of the rank updates.. but still... suggesting
How about if the indiranks are based on just the number of posts submitted on indivine that month and the number of times promoted. Moreover contest wins are a booster. We can figure out an algorithm on that maybe. But i haven't taken the pains to do so because i'm feeling too sleepy now.
now don't confuse them further . let them finish their upgrade , then lets us debate on it .
Yuck, no.
Please lets not mix up indivine with indirank.
As I understand it, Indirank is a measure of the quality of an entire blog connected to Indiblogger whether or not the blogger wishes to participate in contests or Indivine.
This is the same thing again as voting. Voting is based on networks you have and not a reliable indicator of blog quality. Again number of posts submitted here is same as frequency of posting which is already factored in.
hmm... idea scrapped.
It is infact a matter of pride to display our indirank widget on our blog. But at the same time it is not a measure of how good a blog is. The reason being that we are not much aware of how indirank is calculated. According to the admin(or whatever you call them as) they look into evreything: the frequency of posting, followers, subscribers, hits and so on.... One may consider all these things not so important and may be of the view that one post of not more than 100 words per month that raises the thinking level of readers is sufficient. His blog is the best for him. But for the indirank software it is a bad blog, not worthy of reading. The indirank system has many loopholes. It gives a higher rank to more popular blogs thanks to the huge blog stas and subscribers. It does leave the average bloggers from being exposed to co bloggers. On the whole indirank might matter for some. For others, it means nothing but the carton that packs a cake that is anyway going to be thrown out.
On 'A light hearted talk' : Automaton actions overpowering reasonless rejections
Then again I was thinking... what if .. we could do something like this.
Let there be the indirank with whatever system it works on...
Make an IndiFlu [Influence] or IndiPower or IndiCeleb Status which will be somewhat like Technorati authority.. but except that it will depend on the no. of times his posts are voted on IndiVine. Here is a rough example. Person Z has submitted 100 posts on Indivine and has got a total of 200 votes. So his authority is (200/100). If Person X (sounds like me) submits 500 posts on Indivine and gets 50 votes in total his authority is (50/500). [Yeah that does sound like me].
Higher authority... the better.
As Arti said, voting itself is not perfect. Not necessarily the best posts get voted. Try this. After you put up a post, just go and distribute votes to 100 people who are active here. You will get back at least 50 votes irrespective of the quality of your post.
hmm... yes of course voting is not perfect. Then i think b4 anything else... we need changes in indivine system.
Without a paid SEO thing, for an amateur blogger I guess the ranks - PR, Alexa, IndiRank - are the only options to see where a blogger actually (!) stands in the community. Plus, yes the ranks do attract or say, give a reason to the audience to follow a blog....but as Sujith said, ranks are generally quantitative and don't give an exact picture of the quality of the articles....Wish Xeno can do something on it...
Very rightly pointed out Punit. with very little knowledge on SEO and stuff, how muchever we deny, but these things do attract us more!
Yeah, our indipolicy formulator, The Xeno is working on it and will come out with solutions soon
Oh! Atlast somebody understood my hard-work. People - not to worry - i'm working day and night to bring you more stupid alternatives to the features of indiblogger.
@ Arti: Yeah time consuming! but that is why we're giving them 6 months. Like if you work 4 days a week -> 16 days a month -> 96 days in 6 months ->
and if you're working 5 hours every working day -> you take 10 minutes to judge and rate a blog -> so you're rating 30 blogs in a day -> which means you in 96 days, you can rate 5580 blogs.
I assume there are >25000 blogs on indiblogger. Bring in 5 mods. And its a simple job!
Excellent analysis Xeno! But do you think 10 minutes to judge and rate a blog is enough time to give out the proper and deserving rankings?
In the automated version, they have to actually give 0 hrs of any day to our blogs to judge and rate it, still we have delays I am just wondering what will be the situation when its actually moderated manually? We will have to count the delay period in years, i guess
Calculations is simple , but is it practical ???
@Arti: Hmm that is true. :)
@Dhiraj: It is a bit practical, but a lot impossible, considering the point which arti pointed out.
But don't lambaste me with sarcasm if I say that it would take me (or any normal blogger) 5 minutes to judge any tech blog and 10 minutes maximum to judge other blogs. And it can't be more unfair than the current automated system, isn't it?
come on! 30 blogs a day! is that too much?
Aaah! That explains all those low grades in marks.
Sorry people! Arti just headbanged my system as hogwash.
Since we have no foolproof method to analyze a blog, this ranking system must be stopped. Alexa, GPR, Post frequency etc can't be considered as an index of a good blog. Many bloggers are not even aware of these things. Now come to the quality of articles, it's also relative. For example I don't like poetry and don't like such blogs but how I can say that all the poetry blogs are good for nothing in comparison to tech blogs? So we have to agree with the fact that no such a machine coded ranking system can evaluate a blog.
Sorry, I am a part time blogger and may not be able to participate in hot discussions but just quoting my views, that's all . I have some objections related to contests also, will come with a post soon.
Yeah he is right. I should add that since alexa, pagerank and all others are especially easy for tech bloggers because their audience is much much larger. They get more readers, more pageviews, more feedreaders, more backlinks. I think the ratio is something like this.. 1 in every 50 internet surfers would be interested in prose and poetry or literature blogs. So therein lies a fallacy.
I think we should make this indirank something like this.
- Make the indirank updates one-time in about 6 months or even a year.
- But each blog should be judged by 2-3 moderators. The average of the points that they give can be used as the indirank. You can have separate moderators for separate categories.
- Initially when I joined indiblogger i did think that this was the case. I didn't know that it was automated. So as i have mentioned. It is unfair to some bloggers.
ha ha! indiJasoos! rofl!
Hope it comes on May 5th.. :D
That is date given by Indileaks . Hope it works like Wikileaks .
Abhi .. genrally indirank is updated on dat date. So, I jus' guessed it again..
@Dhiraj..
Well, indileaks? LOL..
April 5th was the original date on which the rank was supposed to come out originally before it getting posponed, So I would say @Madhumathi Good guess!
Fingers and toes both crossed
@Arti , you can relax it for sometime may be till may5th morning .
May be when rank actually come , you will be bald . So Sad
It's a way to bring more traffic to Indiblogger.in ..Delay it..People will come again and again to check else people will come only after to check their rank again.
+1 , superb
i have never cared much for the indirank...i actually dont understand it...like when i first joined, i had a ranking of 85 or something..just like that..after that its been dropping, coming up, ...like my sex drive..so i have no idea how this thing works...theres something there called alexa and i thought it was a girl...
personally i have never looked at the ranks to read a post...i do check out the title and if it piques my interest i will read it...sometimes it can be the profile pic...if its a pretty girl, i will read and if the post was as gud as the pic, then i may leave a comment...
@tys dude i read ur posts..gr8 writting.ans yes ppl are excited coz for some of us its our 1st tym..thats about it :)
@ Arti , Hope inditeam understands it . Coz delay seem to misguide all of us .
man this rank thing has ppl goin ga ga over it for what feels lyk eternity
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