IndiTalk Archive Kidnapped :P

Ranjith
Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

The pagination buttons have been removed from the archive and the title has also been changed from 'IndiTalk Archive' to 'Recently on IndiTalk'. 

Why? #o

Is IA's death approaching? :((

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Ranjith
Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

ND suspects that it is because she asked Pankti to read the archive to know about the blue dart robber in the morning.:P

And CK suspects that Renie was frightened of his archive downloading program. :P

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

Now Pankti will give her opinion Money mouth

Nandini Deka
from Bombay
10 years ago

ND suspects that it is because she asked Pankti to read the archive to know about the blue dart robber in the morning.

 

 

timing matchedWink Cool

Nandini Deka
from Bombay
10 years ago

though i must add...that incident has nothing to do with IB...its a seperate issue with shopclues.com

CyberKID
from India
10 years ago

Actually I suspect that because I was working on downloading the archives' pages at almost the same time, this thing was possibly being worked upon. I just stopped working on it to concentrate on some other stuff, and the buttons were goneSurprised, and so were the numbers that showed the details of archives pages that I was downloading. Tongue out

Nandini Deka
from Bombay
10 years ago

na na ck...archives vanished little after a while after i had asked p to read them...B-):P

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

So, p and nd are the main culprits :P

ck now, download the archive :P

Fairy Princess
from Delhi
10 years ago

R, I am not a culprit! Yell

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

ok :|

Fairy Princess
Fairy Princess
from Delhi
10 years ago

R, IA? What's that? :-/:-/:-/

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

IA = IndiTalk Archive 

Fairy Princess
Fairy Princess
from Delhi
10 years ago

Maybe Renie hated the idea of fights on Inditalk being there for everyone to access and see? :-/:-/:-/ But I do think IA should be restored for the greater good, i.e., transparency on the forum Sealed

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

Yes, they should be restored. If not done, those who want to read all those fights can buy the archive from me :PB-)

Nandini Deka
from Bombay
10 years ago

@r.....there wont be fights without archives..people read archives first then fight:)) so no business for uTongue out

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

ND But I have all the previous fights. I can sell them to those who want to pass time reading history B-)

Vijay Prabhu
Vijay Prabhu
from Mumbai
10 years ago

Fairy Princess
Fairy Princess
from Delhi
10 years ago

Another thing: does this mean that if you want to archive your chat, better start a thread on the forum? At least you will have the records with you! Foot in mouthWinkKiss

Nandini Deka
from Bombay
10 years ago

threads can be deleted tooWink

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

:P 

Madhu Bhardwaj
Madhu Bhardwaj
from NOIDA
10 years ago
This one is sure to be blocked and/or deleted soon. :-) have your fun before that.
Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

#o

Fairy Princess
from Delhi
10 years ago

LOL...Madhu is right...be ready to get this thread locked and deleted Laughing

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

No, it won't. This is a PSA Cool

Nandini Deka
from Bombay
10 years ago

wats PSA?

Vijay Prabhu
from Mumbai
10 years ago

Public Service Announcement Cool

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

Cool

ranjith,

Do you go to all the tabs daily on IB and see if everything is ok? Tongue out

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

ND noticed it first. I asked her to create a thread. She didn't, so, I created it Cool

and don't you think noticing it is  natural thing... whenever I open IndiTalk, I first read the archive Tongue out

I stopped reading archive some time ago. I could not take so much information overloadCry

Nandini Deka
from Bombay
10 years ago

ND noticed it first. 

 

 

Cool!

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

I have also reduced reading archives...Undecided

Nandini Deka
from Bombay
10 years ago

no theres no archives now to reduce readingUndecided

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

I was talking of the week just before the archives disappeared Tongue out

This is read bad news Cry How can I keep track of all the cool conversations and cooler fights Cool

Fairy Princess
from Delhi
10 years ago

By being on IndiTalk 24x7 Tongue out

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

or buy them from ck Tongue out

CyberKID
from India
10 years ago

or Ranjith Laughing 20 rupees for each page Tongue out We have more 3.5K pages, so, we'll get a handsome amount Money mouth

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

Yes CK Cool

Who will be our first customer? Pankti? ND? NSV? Innocent

Nandini Deka
from Bombay
10 years ago

i dont buy all that...Undecided i like it free

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

Undecided

Nandini Deka
from Bombay
10 years ago

Cool!

Fairy Princess
from Delhi
10 years ago

I don't need to buy anything Tongue out I anyway rarely used to read archives. Cool

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

Pankti :((

Ck looks like we don't have market for the archives :((

Fairy Princess
Fairy Princess
from Delhi
10 years ago

I think Inditalk will be phased out shortly Innocent...and then just forum threads where no chatting is allowed. Cool

Nandini Deka
from Bombay
10 years ago

it'll be sad if they do it...cos it'll be all too quiet here then

Animesh
from Mumbai
10 years ago

there is no such plan.

Fairy Princess
Fairy Princess
from Delhi
10 years ago

Well, got another shocker on Inditalk today. As soon as I opened the Inditalk today morning, got a pop-up about terms and conditions. Surprised

Avadhoot
from Jabalpur
10 years ago

Strange, I did not get it. Laughing

may all top-chatters got it.Cool

use pop-up blocker.Wink

 

Bhavya Kaushik
from Jaipur
10 years ago

I also got it :|

Nandini Deka
from Bombay
10 years ago

avdhoot..try chatting then maybe u;ll get

Avadhoot
from Jabalpur
10 years ago

Hmm... It's not pop-up though, but one has to check the same before starting the chat.Innocent

Fairy Princess
from Delhi
10 years ago

It's ridiculous Yell

Vijay Prabhu
Vijay Prabhu
from Mumbai
10 years ago

Nice now Indichat window is closed when we open the indiblogger page Cool It can be opened only on clicking the indichat button Cry

Vijay Prabhu
from Mumbai
10 years ago

Yes Ranjith you are right, there is no chat window in the un-logged versionSurprised

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

Undecided

DS
DS
from Mumbai
10 years ago
Good to see Renie finally getting down and implementing the recommendations made by IP. Will certainly make things much more smoother here.
Fairy Princess
from Delhi
10 years ago

You guys recommended to remove archives? Surprised What's the logic behind it? I'd love to know that.

Hemal Shah
from Mumbai
10 years ago

@FP - I am sure IndiBlogger team had a very strong case else they wont have taken such a step for a feature that is loved by many and they themselves created. The Logic does exist in almost all actions that IndiBlogger team takes. Else, there could be many things that could be changed overnight based on a few's recommendation. Things with IB always take time, I am sure you all must have noticed because IB team takes time to analyze a situation and act only if it could help :) 

Fairy Princess
from Delhi
10 years ago

So you mean to say that the logic is not going to be revealed? Innocent We have to keep on guessing about it? Somehow I am not a huge fan of guessing games. I like to call a spade a spade.Smile But never mind, if most of the bloggers are not bothered about transparency, who am I to demand that?Undecided Ignorance is bliss Cool

Hemal Shah
from Mumbai
10 years ago

I doubt this has anything to do with Transperancy, more so - this is a precaution. Logic may be reveled and it is up to the IndiTeam to decide whether that logic should come out or not - similar to the IndiRank logic! no one knows for sure how it runs but IndiTeam did share what they consider. 

 

Bushra M
Bushra M
from Bangalore
10 years ago

I think all these changes are very effective for preventing fights... Thinking on those lines, I think IB's doing a great job!Smile Love you IB<3

CyberKID
from India
10 years ago

but how can such things prevent fights arising out of indifferences Undecided

Fairy Princess
from Delhi
10 years ago

Exactly my point CK...This feature does nothing but remove transparency.

Hemal Shah
from Mumbai
10 years ago

@CK and FP - I guess the changes are made in an effort not to prevent indifferences, but to ensure we warn people from flaming on IndiTalk. Recently it has been observed that people resort to flaming due to personal indifferences, even though they may not even realize that they may be hurting sentiments of others. IndiBlogger is here for everyone, not only for a few of us. 

Fairy Princess
from Delhi
10 years ago

Indianomics, I do know IB is not for few but for the entire group of bloggers, and so I thought transparency is of more importance. If the platform is for few, transparency can be a desired quality but not absolute necessity but when the platform is huge, transparency becomes a necessity. Or at least I think so. Innocent

Hemal Shah
from Mumbai
10 years ago

It may be of merit if you could help explain what adding a no-flaming banner may have to do with Transperency?

Nandini Deka
from Bombay
10 years ago

p..........let them do what they want yaar....wat will we get by runnng after logic...btw u couldnt explain logic either abt that eating egg and putting egg on head thingyWink.Tongue out..................somethings are better left unansweredSmileCool

Fairy Princess
from Delhi
10 years ago

ND, you can't equate feelings with policies. Undecided Anyway, I now understand how IB works Wink

I think we have been using the word "indifferences" here in a wrong context Tongue out

Fairy Princess
from Delhi
10 years ago

Indianomics, I missed your question yesterday. Sorry about that. To answer your question, when did I say anything about no-flamming banner being related to transparency? Innocent I just gave my reaction about what I think about it. When I'm talking about transparency, I am talking about logic behind the removal of archives, and nothing else. I hope I'm clear now Smile

 

PS: I saw Renie's reply about creating thread about it and so I'm happy about it. Smile

Ranjith
Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

How to prevent fights between people on this Earth? 

Build 7.137 billion cages, one for each person on this Earth. Communication between them will be controlled by a central program which will pass the message from the sender to the recipient only if it doesn't have the potential to start a fight. 

Cool

Don't ask me the logic or the context. I will not answer. B-)

Don't disagree by giving reasons. You will waste your energy. B-)

Ranjith
Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

IndiStream link also vanished. It was a useful one to glance through the latest replies updated in real time Undecided

Renie Ravin
from Chennai
10 years ago

Only temporary - until we fix it! The link has been removed, but IndiStream is still there. Smile

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

Yes IndiStream is still there there and I am am still accessing it directly with the URL Wink ( just like the IndiArchive Cool  )

Bushra M
Bushra M
from Bangalore
10 years ago

This thread's also turning nasty. Bhaaaago...#o

On a lighter note, i'll say that Indiadmins know what's better for IB and if they think these changes will help IB develop, so be it! I am happy this way too!Smile 

Fairy Princess
from Delhi
10 years ago

BM, not everyone likes to be treated like kids Smile

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

All the best bhaag-ing :P

Renie Ravin
Renie Ravin
from Chennai
10 years ago

I'll create a thread explaining all the recent changes to IndiTalk folks - sorry, lots of work this week so it might take me a day or two!

Fairy Princess
from Delhi
10 years ago

Thanks Renie. That would be really appreciated! Smile

CyberKID
CyberKID
from India
10 years ago

I was just sharing links on IndiTalk and it suddenly clicked to me that "Link spamming or flaming on IndiTalk will result in your account being disabled." And we now have stricter norms about this.

Though I don't smoke, neither I'm fond of playing with match sticks or any inflammable articles,Innocent so, I can't indulge in flaming, but, I'd like to know more about Link Spamming:

"Link spamming or flaming on IndiTalk will result in your account being disabled."

1. Does this mean that we are not allowed to post any links on IndiTalk?

2. If we are allowed to share links, what kind of links can be shared on IndiTalk?

3. What comes under the purview of link spamming, and how do you categorize whether the link shared be considered spamming or not?

4. What is the course of action, if someone like me (I'm fond of sharing links Tongue out), gets caught red or green or blue handed, sharing links on IndiTalk? Tongue out

Animesh
from Mumbai
10 years ago

There is a difference between link spamming and link sharing. The same rule as of forum applies here, too. A link relevant to the discussion in hand is allowed, but sharing a link which is not at all relevant and disturbs others is what is being referred to here as link spamming. Let me tell you the history of this warning.

There was a time when a lot of people used to come on IndiTalk and share their blog links and vanish. Sometimes they did it in such a quantity that it really disturbed those who were chatting and hence, this warning was put up.

Hemal Shah
from Mumbai
10 years ago

Adding to what Animesh already said, Spam is anything that is done to promote something at a place which is not right - IndiVine blog link posting is not spam, however posting a link on IndiVine from a blog which is full of dummy content and just to get back links (say for adverts), adding those links is SPAM. 

Similarly, IndiTalk is not a place to promote your links - so if you are promoting a link (yours or others) this is not the right place - and hence gets tagged SPAM. However if you are discussing something and a link is in reference to this discussion (and not self promotion like discussing your latest post and adding the link) that is not spamming. 

CyberKID
from India
10 years ago

Thanks, Animesh and Indianomics for sharing insights into link spamming. However, while chatting, we do post links to our latest post or something, or to our blogs too, like for example, while we are talking about some contest and that we shared our contest posts with people, would it still be considered link spamming (afterall, it'll drive traffic to our blog, and thus promotion)?

Animesh
from Mumbai
10 years ago

It's very subjective CK. As I said if something is being shared as per context, it should not be considered so. Moreover, no one goes through IndiTalk archives unlike forum threads. So, unless someone gets disturbed and complains, it is highly unlikely that any action would be initiated. Even if any of the IPs are active on the talk, believe their judging sense to find out what is spamming and what is not Smile

TF Carthick
from Bangalore
10 years ago

Well Cyber - In general rules should be interpreted in spirit and not in letter. The spirit of all rules here is to ensure the following:-

1. Community should not be perceived to be hostile and unfriendly for any users - old or new

2. Community should not be used for promotional purposes.

3. Useful content should not be buried in a sea of content with minimal public utility.

To enforce this philosophy rules are framed to give operational guidelines to support the philosophy. Generally rules are stricter than the enforcement to give some leverage to the rule enforcers. (It is same everywhere. In your first job, if you had read the terms and conditions of your employment contract, it would have given you nightmares)

Rule enforcers ideally are members who over the years have shown maturity in community interaction and are trusted by the community admins to appropriately use discriminatory powers within rules framework to support the general philosophy mentioned above. 

CyberKID
CyberKID
from India
10 years ago

Well, thanks to all the IndiPolice members who cared to reply to my queries. I'd like to clarify that by posting my query, I didn't want to question the rules. I just wanted to know what is considered link spamming, because, IMO, a newbie might have a similar question, which, I feel, the Indiblogger rules and guidelines doesn't clarify. (Or atleast I feel so)

Animesh
from Mumbai
10 years ago

i don't see anything wrong even if you question the rules :)

TF Carthick
from Bangalore
10 years ago

Well CYber - I answered that only on my post. Anything that is not relavent to general public but flooding the community crowding out good content or individuals trying to corner the public community for personal or commercial promotional purposes.


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