Shameless Self Promotion hurts You and IndiBlogger

I totally agree with the views made by Sahil. The only negative impact of self-promotion is that it may tend to crowd out the real topic being discussed. I think that using strong words like 'Shameless' is too judgemental. There is nothing like 'Shameless Self Promotion'. Indiblogger or for that matter, any other Blogger Groups are a collection of bloggers who are passionate about blogging and feel that they have something special to say. What is wrong with promoting your blogs? Who are we to judge if something is 'Shameful' or not. That it crowds out real discussion, that may be a possiblity.

Ram

Yes absolutely right.. if you keep writing in good spirits your blog will be noticed one day..

hey I agree wid u.

What's name of your blog dear :)

Agreed...it should not go to the point of showing off!

Just like wanted to ask something before it appears to be too foolish...I have requested for my blog review and very few people actually reply to that thread :(

Is there a way to ask them directly? Indimail maybe?

Ask other bloggers to review by sending them an IndiMail? 

It depends. If the other bloggers are your friends and they don't mind receiving the review requests then it's fine. Try it with a few people whom you think won't mind receiving the mail. If a majority of them review your blog, then your approach is right, else it's not correct.

But, generally speaking, I think IndiMail is not meant to be used that way. 

deleted a SSP link on a thread I created three months back, I wasn't aware of SSP then, now that I am regular in Indiblogger and have been a part to so many discussion I think its important we should keep this platform spam free. it feels good to engage in indiblogger activities without doing ssp and getting criticism for it. and believe me your blog will get promoted automatically if you are a regular on Indiblogger doesn't matter if you are promoting with links or not.

I hope others too understand the importance of keeping the forum clean, the way you did, Shantanu.

Yes, Prashant I agree to your point. But it is also nessary to promote our writtings and one should find a right way to promote thier one. I to hope this selfpromtion will be stopped even after your forumm....... Good point that is to be raisen and u did it....

Have a nice day...

Sripadi Sravankumar.

for promotion you have "indivine" you can promote 3 posts each day on it

This thread has become relevant again as we see shameless self promotion in various disguises in the threads. 

Also the language seems to be degenerating with words that are quite rude being used.

People who hate to be part of you said-I said are keeping away.

Comraderie is fading.

Is this the beginning of the end....?

@Renie I just read the entire thread and your response made 4 years ago. I think we need a fresh response and clear cut rules that apply to all and not just some.

Too much arbitrariness is happening now.

I agree, these threads have been picking up again lately. Self promotion should be an absolute no-no. I get that getting recognition is why we are all here, but self promotion is a seemingly easy shortcut that actually does nothing other than spamming forums and irritating others. But despite all that, it is still very tempting to fall into that habit, and when more and more bloggers do it everyday and go unpunished, the temptation increases.

there is hardly anyone who reviews those blogs. check the forum if you think i am wrong. Many of us joined the indiblogger with the hope of someone someday appreciating and guiding what we write. if self promotion gets people to read the blogs why is it bad? I hav been disheartened to write because nobody basically cares expect for their blogs. Its also wierd when I write something in my own mother tongue and somebody who doesnt even know the language votes for it. things around here doesnt work the way it is supposed to be. trust me indi ranks is not the  reason why someone should write more posts. it should be motivation and appreciation

If self promotion gets people to read the blogs why is it bad?

Not always. Will someone care to open self promoting threads if the forum is filled with them? 

As you've pointed out the problem with people not responding to Blog Reviews, I would like to add a few things. It's true that now most people do not review blogs. We have about 2525 blog review requests that have gone unreplied against a total of 8225 blog reviews submitted (Stats based on 25 review requests per page multiplied by number of pages 101 and 329 resp. for unreplied and total number of requests).

The point, as far as I've understood, behind Blog reviews was to give and get reviews. There are a bunch of people like Aditya Dey who regularly review blogs. But, most of the people who ask for review never turn back to their request to atleast thank the reviewer let alone review other's blogs. I was doing it enthusiastically, till some time back, and was asking people to do it, but, now, I too have lost that enthusiasm of reviewing other's blog, although, I still hold that you get to learn enough from blog review requests. My own request, that I made about 5 months back, has only one review. How can someone be so much enthusiastic to only give and not get anything in return.

As far as other things go, I support that Indirank isn't a reason one should write posts. Infact, IndiBlogger is just a very small platform which sends a very small amount of traffic to your blog. And people who vote for blog posts which they do not even understand are just doing it for the sake of doing it. It  is completely useless. Things don't work themselves. We've got to get things working the way we want.

To the point regarding self promotion "shameless", I would say - How would you find watching only advertisements on your tv instead of that movie or daily soap? Annoying na? Then you've got your answer.

You might say so but have you ever noticed how many people go to the Review Section? There are hundreds of blogs out there without any reviews but hardly can you find a thread in the main forum without any response. People don't just care to go over there. And I think that's what is promoting 'shameless self promotion'. We ourselves are responsible for it.

No one is following this anymore, it seems IndiPolice too are either busy or may be out numbered as so many posts are having links being posted

I agree.. many who are new to blogging do that..

No Kedar. The existing system is better. I too am a new joinee and although I don't know things were when self promotion was allowed, I'm pretty sure it would have sucked. I'm having trouble getting votes too, but the thing is, the longer you stay at it, the easier it gets. And besides, if self promotion were allowed, it would be allowed for everyone, so the new bloggers would still not have an edge, and the forum would be spammed with links.

There are reasons for people do shameless plug and that's cause there is no clear visibility to individual's / newcomer's work! I'm on indiblogger but I donot feel the success of connecting or networking!! If you don't feel networked you'll try hard... and those shameless plugs are SCREAMS for grabbing attention... Ofcourse it is not good and blah blah... but then If we really get to see what's latest and what's old... What's up-coming and what was already established - we 'll have lesser of such.

Consider one more point, for top blogs listed we're actually going over the hash tags but thus leaving the DEDICATED TO SUBJECT blogs lag behind.

AND THIS IS IMPORTANT:: It's a shame that http://www.animhut.com/ and http://www.indianfoodfreak.com/ rank first two in a "photography blogs" while we donot see the most liked photography blog of Daniel Joshi anywhere!!! Go through indivine posts for Lifestyle>photography, "Joshi Daniel" rocks it till almost 10 pages!!!!! No one else could enter his domain !! So there is something we need to improve the visibility of blogs!! Both above blogs are quite nice but photography is not their subject... I hope I clear my point...

So those who dislike for shameless plugs there are reasons to do that... Nobody like to do it but when you know things are good they should be appreciated and indiblogger promised the platform for that... and you don't get it... you started to scream for attention...

Why new comers do a shameless plugs is because people don't get much attention!! I have always found diffulties in getting people to take interest in any of my blogs - may be they're bad or may be I may have lesser number of people in my network!! Is there anyway we can find what's the networks strength of particular friend - where to explore - what to see - like giving / asking for "suggestions" for blogs?

So here is my suggestion.... we shall review the blogs and if they're of lower standards, doesnt belong to particular subject we shall remove them, categorise them efficiently!!!

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Let the bloggers decide what is 'shameless self-promotion', what is 'self-promotion', what is 'promotion', what is 'promo', what is'....'---I think we need to be dogmatic about it. Otherwise that may also be considered a kind of  a 'shameless self-promotion'...

please read: 'I do not think that we need to be dogmatic about it.'

I was going through the posts, all with a serious mindset and had a query, but seeing the second last post of Dee Dee really made me fall of from my chair laughing!!

Anyways, I had a query that, blogs do need promotion, atleast thats wht I feel after seeing the traffic on my blog. Thus can anyone guide me regarding how to do effective promotion of blogs, rather than "shameless promotion"!!??

http://merinautanki.blogspot.in/2012/06/open-letter-to-acp-vasant-dhoble.html

this topic that I wrote on has been getting on my nerves ever since it started showing on the papers.

Heights of irony...No not your post or article  but your comment in this topic. Kudos!!

lol

I have been through some not-so-very-interesting posts just because i stumbled upon them because of their popularity/promotion/self promotion..when one blogs, he/she wants people to read it and so the self-promotion follows..to some extent even the chats and forums are produced to show one's presence on a certin platform like indiblogger..no one is omnipresent in a way to know your blog's presence everytime it's posted..that's why things like search engine optimization is thete! you have to promote it and that is self promotion..to chat..to interact feels good as it brings common thoughts and experiences where we can relate to each other which is actually fantastic but this is one aspect of blogging, not the only aspect..come on guys..be honest

Hmm....I understand what u are trying to get at...but at the same time I agree with Rashmi...I too have shared my blog posts ..have begun to in this space.. but I think one should also acknowledge other blogger's thoughts before accuusing them under the blanket of "self publicity"....

Also one thing to notice is the kind of posts ppl share here...as of what I know I consciously scan out posts...sieve them before sharing here..there is a reason I share posts which I want ppl to read and be aware of.. so adding a "read more" drwas attention, yes it does...but I dont see it as a harm if only ppl are gtting enlightened by reading what ur thoughts are, by sharing theirs too...its a process...and well ur forum thread is just "ur" viewpoint, and may be a few others as well...at the same time its imp to understand that thoughts, perceptions vary...one thing can be viewed from diffrnt angles, and that's where the beauty of it lies...

Well, I am engaging on other activities in this forum. And interacting with bloggers too. But.....

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I completely agree with you Edwin....its really sad and disappointing to see people promoting themselves like anything...really agitating..

Actually we should have confidence on whatever we write and than let others decide upon it's quality and other aspects...If the content is good than for sure its gonna get popularity...self promotion has really shattered the spirit with which one should participate in a competition...