Shameless Self Promotion hurts You and IndiBlogger
First up: I'm not flaming/trolling. I consider this an important issue.
The indiblogger forum is meant for networking and interacting with bloggers. I don't count post advertisements as fitting into either category. Quality posts will draw readers to your blog without you necessarily having to say, "Did you know this... read my post to know more."
This is a forum to share experiences and insights about the blogging experience. Can we please stop clogging the forums with shameless self promotion. Once you advertise your blog in the Review category, your blog is on everyone's radar. After that, let readers add their blog to your network.
Shameless self promotion does more harm than good. I would stop visiting a blogger who only interaction on the forum is "check out my post."
Renie: You've provided a button to say mark discussion as "shameless self promotion" but how many people have to mark it that before it gets removed?
cheers!
Prashant.
The irritating advertisements that creep in between overs during cricket matches... The channel gets the paisa and the client get the viewers (whether they like it or not)...
i agree that when someone adds his/her url in a forum, the whole conversation drifts away.. Again the conversation will drift away only if i am not serious about the conversation..
Spammers will be there as long as forums exist... sometimes we need to adjust with it.. If we tighten the rules, we might not have good discussions in the forum..
There should be an alternate method to avoid spammers.. we could actually have a separate thread for that and find new insights from the brainy strategists of India
The thing is Chris that you're saying pretty much what we're all saying - we could ignore it but maybe we should deal with it. The "alternate method" will obviously involve some rule tightening but perhaps it is for the best - otherwise, there is a real chance (in my opinion) that IB will just die out as a place for bloggers to share ideas and it'll become a pure advertising your site clusterfck.
~Prashant.
@Chriz, I agree with you.
Ignoring the links, and carrying on with the discussion seems to me to be the best policy(have tried it and it works).
One ignore keeps away other potential self promoters (cruel, but necessary at times!).
Also, why is mentioning one's link being termed 'self-promotion'?
It ranks high on my list of things that put me off in a blogger's reply.
Shouldn't we call it 'self-demotion' then?
I personally don't feel the need for a drop down menu.
If a particular reply from a thread interests me, I simply click on the person's name, and am transported to his/her blog.....(have I got something wrong here?)
We're not arguing mentioning your link Smita... we're arguing the "Check out my cool post," "check out my new awesome post" kind of discussion threads. When people start threads like these, they crowd out threads that deal with blog discussion and debate. The quality threads get pushed out of sight... that's what we're trying to combat. Within an answer, by all means drop your link but we don't want people starting pointless threads.
~Prashant.
I knew I was geting something wrong here!
My reply about ignoring the unwanted thread or intrusive comment is still valid, though.
External factors will always be there, the point is not to let them distract us, and to steadfastly:
1.ignore,
2.sidestep, and
3.carry on with the discussion as if the intrusion never happened.
Its easier to do something differently than to tell a person what not to do!!
Yes, it happens every where. You scratch my back, I shall scratch yours. Writers have their own group to praise each other in articles and reviews. Indivine is no exception , that is why one can find posts of same bloggers again and again!
I am completely for shameless blog promotion.
I think the primary premise is a need for approval.Some people write to be appreciated,some people just write to write whether or not people comment.Each has a right to his existence.We cannot be judgemental of what is right and what is wrong.
If some SBP does not appeal to you - you have a choice to ignore it.It doesn't cost you know.
IMHO there is no harm in promoting your post,as long as you are doing it on Indivine.Since there are thousands of posts on the net,a good post can often get lost.Besides sometimes,as a writer you feel some your best work needs to be shared.Absolutely nothing wrong with that.Yes,if it transcends into pestering or spamming,and posting on wrong forums,with off topic content, it looses it s relevance That's when it is bothering.
In short I just have to say I agree with what you say...
I don't know if it is promotion but I would love to know if my blog looks as good to anyone else as it does to me...being new I had added all sorts of stuff to my blog, and some good Samaritans who reviewed it suggested changes which I incorporated.
After the changes, I am naturally curious to know if my changes were nice...so I ask for another review.
Am I promoting?...maybe I am, may be not
...Is it a crime... to ask people to your home?...make friends?
Why is promotion so important anyway?
I am a beginner on IndiBlogger, and I have only added 3 of my posts to IndiVine, posts where I wanted public opinion.
Isn't it better to let people find your blog rather than having to shove it down people's necks?
Shoving down one's neck! NO NO NO!
but you gotta server them on a plate, their choice to eat or not!
How else is anyone gonna find out your blog out of the billions???
That is why we are here, aren't we? That is why we use IndiVine, Forums!
Yes precisely! And this thread is here only to explain no to over exploit the forum and Indiblogger!
right addy!! forum , blog review option .. i think that is also part of promotion only ........blogging itself a part of promotion ...M I right???
When INDvine is being provided as an option of blog publiity than y use forum...???
A very simple way. There is blog reviews section section where bloggers can put up their blog for reviews. whats the need of doing it on forum?
Also i feel that bloggers should get a chance about every 3-6 months to put up their blog for review again, so as to get feedback about their improvements or suggestion from the blogggers.
second that
Truely said
''Shameless Self Promotion hurts You and Indiblogger''I APPRECIATE THIS EFFORT TO STOP SELF PROMOTION ACTUALLY THOSE WHO DID THIS OR DOING ARE ACTUALLY FAKE TO THEMSELVES.ITS A DUTY OF EVERY BLOGGER TO PRESENT THEIR REALISM.
I think, if you dont have readers what is the use of writing a blog. We can always use dialry. But virtual word give us a chance to present our ideas, dreams and views regarding amy topic under the sky. At the same time we are always curious ( curiosity is part of human nauture...) to know people's view regarding the same. So I think asking people to visit your blog is no harm, but by promoting it and posting blog link everywhere person is cheating noone but himself. My 2 year of blogging experince says that, blogs with good content are always appreciated , when blogger know the right place to put his blog.
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Please care to write in english, I haven't understand single word in your reply....
oh ! mala ingraji yet naahi.
dhanyawad !
promos r needed.....but thr r limits for those promos....
we get irritated if we see too many promos...
WE EXPERIENCE SIMILAR IRRITATING POSTS ON ORKUT!!
''chk out this community..... and meet srk''....!!
but promotion in a creative and innovative way which evokes interest in the reader wud be appreciated
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