Is it OK to HATE Beggars & Eunuchs?
Yes. I HATE beggars and eunuchs. Let me clarify. I dont hate poor people. I travel a lot in trains and we all know about beggars and eunuchs asking for money in trains. It is fair to ask and are "WE" the persons they should approach for their misery. So what we are middle class or rich. We work all day to earn money. So I dont want my hard earned money to just give to beggars and even more shameless eunuchs. I have seen people being mistreated if they dont give money (alms) to eunuchs. What on earth gives them the right to insult a passenger. They should not be in the trains in the first place. I surely hate them for not what they are... but for what they do. A handicap boy would knowingly rip off his shirt to 'show' he is handicapped to gain sympathy and get money. Then I have seen them buying 'kurkure' which, although is 10Rs, is very costly for their pockets. I think twice before choosing either a vadapav or branded wafers so that I could save money. Even middle class and rich people have their dreams and thts y they earn money to fulfil them. Whereas these beggars, instead of saving atleast one tenth of a day's income, they blow away everything at the end of the day. Eunuchs are even worse. They collect money and save them. Let me tell u they have more money in their bank accounts than a clerk in an office. Even then they 'rip off' money from passengers. Is it fair ??? Should they be labelled as thieves ?? Should they be insulted back if they insult you ?? Should they even exist ?? (sorry for the last question but I want your opinion)
You have touched a very good point and i agree with you hundred percent. I have also faced this situation as i dont come under any quota. If you want to know my view about quota you can read this http://thatlovedflower.blogspot.com/2009/05/mr-prime-minister-good-wishes-for.html The presence of quota till today is nothing but the blunder and pampering of our administration. This quota has reached to such proportion that India sadly is being polarised. patriotism or Indianness is being divided. Quota people and Non quota people as if we are no human being. I completely agree with your proposition. But sadly we cannot change the rule though a begining should be made to at least stop pampering after certain date. For the last sixty years we have seen enough of this pamering and the upcoming of pampering generation.
But at the same time this is something like securing social justice. Certainly, quota have benefited many but as we are not decategorasing this has become an evil system. In Us even there is affirmative action as black people were the symbol of persecution and contempt. They were deprieved of the facilities that white people got. No doubt we have no clear cut guidelines.
Though i have suffered under this policy of affirmative action still i would like this to go on in India with some changes like providing quota on economic condition rather than the present caste system. Today, many urban centres have got technical, medical, engineering and various other institutions. But Bharat lack this. The difference between India and Bharat is wide and varied. Bharat is not yet competent economically and socially to compete with India that has all kind of facilities and infrastructural facilities.
As far as beggars are concerned we must admit them as part of the society. We may reform them and provide some gainful employment with both governmental and nongovernmental efforts. But sadly such a fruitful program is yet to begin unifromly throughout india. Surely, in certain pocket and urban centres a sincere effort is being made. In my town i have seen a wealthy person ditributing food to hundreds of beggars. It is a duty of that humanitarian person to come to the railway station in the evening to distribute food item. Surely he is distributing fishes and not teaching how to fish. But to teach how to fish is not that easier. You have driven your though towards the beggars is a matter of happiness that someone is thinking of them.
I appreciate your manner of replying and your sense of respect. But instead of respecting me by Sudam Chandra sir, you could have addressed me as Sudam minus sir. Anyway, thanks.
Let us start a bloggers unite moment on this topic to generate at least an awareness all over india and in the search engines. All will come up with their ideas and programmes. it may suggest a way out to Ngos and government machineries to follow and implement. Some of these people can be absorbed by our Industries for some menial jobs which is yet to be done. What's your say?
for those of you who are pity on the beggar i got a chinese proverbs for you~
"Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will eat for the rest of his life."
Hello Sudama Chandra sir,
I read every bit of your post above and I agree with you for the most part that beggars and eunuchs have no job opportunities through the government. But what my point is, do we all have job opportunities from the government. Government is doing what it can for these people, for their upliftment. Since childhood I have seen some 'castes' or 'scheduled tribe' or 'people below poverty line' were given cycles, compensation and even free education. We see that they have their own quotas in engineering, medical, pharmacy and even in pursuing MBA. I should not say it but it sometimes hurt a boy who belong to 'well-to-do' family who scores more than a boy from a above mentioned 'castes' but he wont get admission or first chance with respect to latter. Still, if he complains then he is looked with an evil eye. "How can you treat them like this?" "They also have the right to stand parallel to most of us" I am not denying that. Sure, come up. Stand up. but why at the cost of others? This may seem surprising but a middle class person has to toil more than a rich or a poor person.
Furthermore, I would say that if government is running out of options to provide necessities to these people then they can resort to something else. We are not a bunch of 1.17 billion people. We are a superb manpower. India is rich in terms of manpower.Even a small work will do.. But my point is to earn. I am not saying that you should not give money. If you wish you can give because YOU are a nice person. You may think that you have done a blessful thing by helping a person but dont you think we are making them more useless and indirectly convincing them that money can be gained by this way too. I know that one or two rupees per day is like nothing to me, but WHY? This very act of mine will make his feeling strong that money can be gained by just extending a hand. I am giving 1 rupee to a beggar and I am giving 1 rupee to a water pouch boy who brings me a cool refreshing water while he himself is toiling carrying a heavy bag of pouches. What is the difference? I want to show that beggar, this is the diffrence by not giving him any money.
Really a very good thread though i came late to this thread. Everyone has his own view. Let me first begin from the people who have earned money and dont want to part with that as they have their dream to live. Let's face it. How come people earn lot of money? Clearly by getting a job or doing some business. But who provided those people the conducive atmosphere to reach to that position? Cleary it is the community represented by the governement. They got good education and got money to do business or invest. Who provided the money. Parents. Who provided the money to the parents? clearly their parents. if we see to the past then certainly we would discover the anomolies of the society that Carl Marx had called the rule of Burgeoise class.
There are lot of people who dont get that much of opportunities from any sector from the governement or the society. They happen to be handicapped by the nature. Today government invests a lot of money for the betterment of the weaker section of the society. Now we have got schools, mid day meal scheme to arrest the drop out rate. Even if the rule again there is prevalent of child labour. Because there is short of resources and unless these children are put to job the family is bound to perish. Despite and despite everything there are some factors out of control of the government and the society there is all around poverty. The planning of India is loapsided and now is more loapsided thanks to political lobby.
Whatever governement provideds is through various agenecies and the benefit is again reaped by the people who have got money. Naturally by their brilliance and upbringing the know how to reap benefit. Today situation is so that rich are getting richer and poor are getting poor. Clearly there is some defects in our system or there is the presence of a certain class of people who by dint of their developed brain and power tend to twist the rules and do everything for the failure of the programes and policies of the government.
One is earning money through service or business is not solely for their efforts as government and the community is there with opportunites galore. What if government does not provide them the opportunities? I have seen demonstrations of the business class against VAT. Clearly who pay the VAT; the customers ultimately. Then what was the reason to block road and moment. A section of this rich class block trains leading to unnecessary loss to the economy and the cascading effect of fresh taxation and price rise. A majority of people have got good bargaining power to wrest opportunities and press the government to accede to the demand of theirs.
The present price rise is nothing to do with shortage but due to the mentality of the business class people to hoard and create a scarce situation in the market. I have not seen anyone charging less than the MRP though the situation is not so. Everyone is there to guard their profit and coffer.
There is powerful unions to guard their interest. This is the reason of increasing strikes and bandhs or rail rokos. People blocking the movements of trains and people are no one but the informed and rich section of the society. Have anyone seen any bandhs or strike by the poors or eunuchs. No. Because they lack that organisation and resources or brain to do so. Now govt is proving crores of rupees to the NREGA but do you think that the poor or beggars or eunuchs will get the benefit. No. Clearly physically challenged people, eunuchs or beggars will not be provided the job opportunities.
hence they resort to begging. In trains i have seen people cheating the governement with physically handicapped certificate and getting the benefit of concession. The Izzat scheme recently started by Mamata Banerjee is good in intention but in reality the benefit will be reaped by the middle class. Do you think a poor person can meet his Mp, MLA or District Magistrate or BDo and get a certificate for his poor status. No. And again this kind of scheme will be misused.
The beggars or eunucs have no stream of income other than begging. And trains or railway stations or the front of the temples or markets are good places for begging as in these places there happen to be movement of people. Look at our cultures. In trains we breaks nuts, eat jahlmurhi, mixture, fruits, biscuits and increase clutter or garbage in trains. Clearly no one can provide the service to clearn the trains. To do this like shoeshine boys some poor, ill clad boys come to clearn them. Still we argue with them and dont pay a single rupee. They have no voting right nor inclination to do so. They are homeless and railway platforms are shelters for them. As they earn and spend less it is obvious that they save money more than any clerk.
So, what other things you can do than to part with a small part of your income. Because they are also a part of the society and it is but a hard reality. Dont hate them and dont also love them if you dont like but dont condemn to death. What will happen if you give a rupee or two to them? Rich people tend to hate them by virtue of their position. But it Is India where there is begging, presence of lepers, physically challenged people and many more.
I always pay money to eunuchs, beggars. Daily i ensure that i pay some rupees to them. Whenever i get a chance i pay. When i cannot for different reason i repent for not paying. I understand my social responsibility and always donate to NGO working on different sector. I dont mind if i part with a part of my hard earned money. I derive satisfaction though i know very well that the meagre amount will not do any miracle but i know it is drops of waters that makes an ocean.
Thanks
I like those who sell 1 Re. water pouches in trains. I like those who sing songs in trains and "earn" money. I like those who polishes shoes on the roads. They are serving the mankind. A water pouch boy provides water to thirsty passengers and earns a reward. That is a service to mankind. A girl realises that she has a nice voice and sings songs in trains and earns a reward. Another boy would 'find an opportunity' in taking up plastic bottles and give them to recycling plant. That's a service to mankind. Thats where some hope is there. Some passion that not seen in beggars. They ARE pathetic. In strong words, a burden on earth.
Let's not be partial people. "Why should we hate them?" -- this is not simply the question here. The question is DO YOU? or DO YOU NOT? .. i know slumdog was a great film and it created much love for these people all over the globe but let me tell you slumdog is not even the thousandth part of the actual representation of them. It was a film that was MADE to create sympathy for them. It feels great to just say "they should be treated well" while sitting in your comfort zone in front of a computer and "BECOMING A FAN" of social causes by clicking just "I LIKE IT" on Facebook... My dear, face reality. IT IS OK to hate someone. Hate is just another human emotion.. don't treat it negatively. Loving someone doesnot need a reason but hating someone needs a reason. I hate them because I HAVE reasons. It is NOT BECAUSE they are ugly, live on the roads, they are poor, or eunuchs or handicapped. I have friends who have a gay tendencies. I have myself seen poverty as a child. But poverty was not affordable anymore and that's y we earned and now I can safely say I belong to higher middle class family. And don't bring luck into this. The line "God help those who help themselves" is so so so so true if I talk about my life. I have seen how it feels and based upon my experiences I am saying that I hate them. They have given up every hope of rejuvenating themselves. You know wat.. thats next to being dead. Period.
I dont subscribe to your passionate lament on the issue of poverty and transvestites in Mumbai or even india for that matter. In fact, I would probably say that your remarks are a bit rude... especially towards eunuchs! But they're your views and I dont believe any of us have a say in whom you should or should not empathise with. xxx http://worldatrandome.blogspot.com/
Why we should hate beggers???? If we are not interested in giving our hard earned money..well and good... we can go in our own way..for that why we should hate them??
Its our wish whether to give money are not.... as leon said they do it as a profession and My worst fears are that they too have associations and forums..
Will anyone say I hate software professionals or i hate those who work in mnc's?? In the same way how can we say we hate them...( begging beng considered a profession)...
Well, begging is really not a profession
. Just because 10s of thousands of people do that in our country, it does not become a profession. When you don't have a profession, actually when they decide that they can't/won't work, they take up begging.
begging is also a profession ... in chennai railway station i have once seen a begger talking in cellphone while begging
OK... yes, I HATE beggers period! Especially the ones who are healthy. I try to do as much I can for people in need, but not beggers. The minute you convince yourself to beg, you have lost all and every thought to ever earn a living. And I'm totally against it. As far as I remember, I have never given a single penny to a begger and I don't regret. They have to be discouraged. I dont mind the guys who just clean your bike when you park it and then ask for some money. I'd give them plenty.
In fact, if there ever comes a rule that beggers can be mercy killed, I mean the rule may/should never be implemented for no one has the rights over another's life..., the beggers population in India will immediately be halved! Just the threat will make them give it up.
Especially the ones who are healthy
Bingo! 100% agree with you. And you know which ones I hate the most? Those are the one who use children to do the begging for them and these hale and healthy jerks just push those poor kids along.
No no, you are slightly missing the point here. I dont hate poor people. I hate the mentality of those people who believe that begging is the only way. No ways. Not at all. Not all 'differently-abled' people turn to begging. And if he/she knows that he/she has to beg then why spend lavishly on costly products or even liquor. And when I said 'They should not exist', I meant this should be eradicated but these people dont want to get evolved. This year only, many beggars built fake cardboard houses near rivers and when floods happen, they claim houses from govt. Rapes of adolescent girls, unreported polyandry and polygyny are maximum amongst these people. Officially we are 1.17 billion people. Actual figures are surely more than that. Its simply out of reach for govt to provide everything to everybody. And poverty WILL PREVAIL in India. Let's face it. And we cannot ignore poor people. But their acts and practices is what makes me mad. Who is responsible for their such condition? I am not. Nor the govt. Why we are the people whom they turn to? They produce kids with a calculation to make them work more and bring more money to the house by begging. But they are increasing the population about which they don't care. And who are the sufferers? Everybody. Overall financial and economical pressure per individual increases. I have much more to say but I think I should stop here.
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