Do we visit again to see the reply to our comment on a blogpost ?

We commnets on lot of blogposts in our daily life, but do we visit them the next or the same day to check the reply of Blog owner on it  ?

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Yup - with bioth Joomla and Drupal, it helps if you're an adminny type..

And Wordpress for the real deal Laughing

Joomla and Drupal, anyone?

Hunky @ NexGenBikes.com
from Kolkata
10 years ago

They are even better than WordPress but only in modification and customization.. But somehow lacks the simplicity needed to woo the users to start using them and build up a Dummies community which wordpress have done..

Total newbie about website and blogs can start with WP but just reading few tutorial and following the guide with eyes closed.. That is not the case with Drupal, Joomla or such CMS.. They miss out on this..

Ranjith
Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

Blogger is bad. Wordpress is equally bad.

A custom CMS built using Java EE to suit your needs is the best. Tongue out

Few (one) thing which cannot be done in Wordpress:

Using same slug for two posts

Hunky @ NexGenBikes.com
from Kolkata
10 years ago

so where is that good java CMS??

 

link pls..

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

A custom CMS

You have to build it yourself. Currently, I am tried to build one for my CS site [self promotion Tongue outCool

Hunky @ NexGenBikes.com
from Kolkata
10 years ago

blogspot and wp is for less nerdy people who doesn't know much coding.. is there any such java option ??

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

Here are some Java CMSes. [ I never tried any Tongue out ]

Also, read the first answer here

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

blogspot and wp is for less nerdy people who doesn't know much coding.. is there any such java option ??

This weekend, I will take a look at the CMSes listed in that wiki page and give my verdict Tongue out

Nandini Deka
from Bombay
10 years ago

blogger is goodKiss i hate wordpressYell

 

Cool

Hunky @ NexGenBikes.com
from Kolkata
10 years ago

you dont know yet ??? :-O and called custom java cms better choice ?? i guess it would have been then by now we could hae seen one getting fame like wp..

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

Hunky custom = custom, not something that you can download and install like wp or blogger ( Not just java but any custom cms that suits your needs )

Hunky @ NexGenBikes.com
from Kolkata
10 years ago

When it all starte,d WP was also a custom project but slowly it grew and people started using it hence it became a publicly available software for web publishing !!

What you are saying is you, your self developing one website only for your self.. Well, in that regards, I would use dreamwaver and design and keep publishing one as statis :))

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

I don't have idea what words in Mandarin you two are exchanging... but I visited Rajni's wiki link and got myself suffocated for 7 seconds [Sigh]

Hunky @ NexGenBikes.com
from Kolkata
10 years ago

@AS..

It seems Rajni too got chocked and started make us confuse in that webmaster thread :))

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

AS Yell

Hunky --ditto--

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

Rajni!!! [Get a life dude style disgusted raised eyebrows]

Dunno about the "irrelevant", but "pointless waste of time" may be relevant Laughing

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

Yes... hence we won't waste our time and stick to blogspot till we develop Alzheimer one day (unfortunately if...)

sheesh!! I'm not asking you to change over....

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Yet.

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

'Yet' is irrelevant [big grin]

What's there? Better themes, with better fonts, better layouts. ok - the widgets are a wee bit disappointing, but they are not cluttery and they match the theme (for the freebie Wordpress.com WP). If you are on a self-hosted WP then you have a much better choice of widgets.

Comments - way better than forcing the G+ id. 

Ultimately - I tried both and like Wordpress and find blogger / blogspot 'nnoying!

Desire v/s Destiny
from Gurgaon
10 years ago

Blogspot Rocks ;)

 

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

I'm not going to change it in a decade.... not even in the next either... just little afraid to use the 'never'.... Sigh.... I find themes, fonts, widgets, commenting etc in blogspot sufficient to meet my needs... and yes, who's forcing g+ on you???

Desire v/s Destiny
from Gurgaon
10 years ago

I wont change it either 

Nandini Deka
from Bombay
10 years ago

blogspot dont force g+...its optional

Gaurab
from New Delhi
10 years ago

I actually have blogs in both the platform and can say WP commenting system is better. Tongue out Though I will win whichever side wins Tongue out

Hunky @ NexGenBikes.com
from Kolkata
10 years ago

Its like Orkut and Facebook..

People graduate from Orkut and then for higher, they turn to facebook, just like that, Blogspot is highschool, where as WP can be graduation, master, ph and so on..

There is nothing as simple as wordpress, yet there is nothing which is as customizable as wordpress...

CyberKID
from India
10 years ago

You can customize Blogger too, as much as you want. For doers, sky is the limit, literally. :P

For someone like me who's been studying at both the schools (blogger and self hosted WP), it appears blogger is more of an easy platform to use. I don't know how and why people think WP to be better at customization, flexibility and ease of use.

Agreed that you need to get your hands dirty (really filthy) with blogger to get your work done the way you want, with blogger, have to go beyond the limits of a regular blogger who wants to just blog, that's it! But then, for such a blogger, WP too is limited.

During my journey through WP, taking a deeper than usual dive into the insides of WP, I learnt that doing things as simple as inserting your custom HTML, JavaScript and CSS code into one of your posts as I've been doing in my blogger blog, is a mammoth task in WP. Maybe, I don't know the right way to do it, but, I found this quite an annoying thing that I can't format my blogpost as I want. For doing so, I'll have to go deeper and make changes to a global stylesheet that manages my WP blog's formatting, or create a new one separately. Again, Wordpress (self hosted one) gives you the flexibility to do whatever you want, then again, you need to know basic world wide web coding languages including HTML, Javascript, CSS, PHP etc. If you know all these, you can get most of the stuff done in blogger as well.

Hunky @ NexGenBikes.com
from Kolkata
10 years ago

Majority who goes for modification, doesn't seems to be in Blogger !!

If the community, which actually modify their blog beyond everyday tasks of common blogger, seems to prefer WP way more than they work under Blogger..

WP is the choice :P

CyberKID
from India
10 years ago

Hunky, but what about the simple tasks that blogger allows and WP doesn't?:-/

Like inserting your own HTML, CSS and Javascript code in your blog post, formatting the post the way you want, and also like copying and pasting the formatted text from MS Word to blogpost?

Hunky @ NexGenBikes.com
from Kolkata
10 years ago

@CK..

Basic feature you said is also present in WordPress..

Check their posting pane, it allows you to switch between HTML and rich text editing format on fly also it sopports copy pasting from Word I find..

Please check again !!!

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

Sigh... now this thread needs a name change by affidavit "Blogspot vs Wordpress"

Hunky @ NexGenBikes.com
from Kolkata
10 years ago

That reminded me.. AS needs space, so in terms of space

WordPress as blogging platform, provides 3GB..

Just like Blogspot, you can always use plug ins to utilize the Google Drive space too :D

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

Customisation / Theme development in blogger and wp are too different. Developing themes in wp is much easier - the templating system is the same as is with any custom build php website. Your code can be made modular and more maintainable. On blogger, everything has to go into a single file with nesting conditions one inside the other. (:| 

Things that can't be done on blogger - 

Removing dates from permalinks X(

Server side processing Undecided

Things that can't be done on wp -

Using same slug for two posts X(

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

Hunky 15 gb> 3 gb [universal truth wala smile]

Hunky @ NexGenBikes.com
from Kolkata
10 years ago

@AS..

Sorry dont mind, but check this,

Number of Pictures: Up to 1 GB of total storage, shared with Picasa Web. If you've upgraded to Google+, your photos will be stored in Google+ Photos, where you have 15GB of storage space shared with Gmail and Drive.

Actual space in blogger is 1GB, compare to WordPress where it is 3GB.. Now what Google Blogger allows is to share GDrive space to store images and files of your blog.. I am sorry but same can work with WordPress too.. You can use GDrive as your storage for uploading images and files then hot linking back to WordPress !!!

So there you have 3GB and 15GB GDrive..

Nothing special, infact technically Blogger has less space :P

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

Hunky regarding this I'll get back to you..... [Boman Irani style hasty escape] 

Hunky @ NexGenBikes.com
from Kolkata
10 years ago

@AS..

FYI.. -> https://support.google.com/blogger/answer/42348?hl=en

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

Thanks [Sigh]

Anunoy Samanta
Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

Wondering what's there in WP  [scratching, itching, bruising the scalp]

Gaurab
from New Delhi
10 years ago

One think is for sure that the wordpress commenting system is really wonderful, hundred times better than the default blogspot commenting system. 

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

Blogspot rocks blogspot rocks blogspot rocks............... [One man army march]

Nandini Deka
from Bombay
10 years ago

Blogspot rocks blogspot rocks blogspot rocks...............Cool

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

Thanks for supporting Deka!

Nandini Deka
from Bombay
10 years ago

i''m supporting blogspotCool

Blogspot rocks blogspot rocks blogspot rocks

Gaurab
from New Delhi
10 years ago

I have blogs in both the platforms hence I could actually tell the difffernce. Tongue out And I will win whichever side wins Tongue out 

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

Yes Deka, it was a 'thank you' from blogspot's desk only....

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

Narasimha Hi5....

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

Gaurab, for the sake of personal safety join blogspot troop for now [Churchill's chuckle]

Curious to know how a Churchill's Chuckle would look like Cool

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

http://mooselicker.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/winston-churchill-smoking-cigar.jpg Tongue out

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

Kids always looking for "chance pe dance" [Sigh].....

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

Innocent

Look, I'm an old man and my blog was on Blogger at one time. Once I discovered WP, boom, I could not wait to get off.

oh wait my plane is here, bye for now....

Vijay Prabhu
Vijay Prabhu
from Mumbai
10 years ago

I do keep tab on the comments posted by me on my fav subject economics and politics Tongue out  Other than that no tabs just Hero Honda style

Open it

Write it

Forget it Foot in mouth

CyberKID
from India
10 years ago

What is hero honda style Undecided never heard of it.Tongue out

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

Posting a comment and running away on a hero honda even before the blog owner notices ir Tongue out

Vijay Prabhu
from Mumbai
10 years ago

CK HH's very old ad sloganWink

Ranjith yesLaughing

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

Laughing

Subroto
Subroto
from Brisbane
10 years ago

Sure I do.  It's nice to see people respond, but whether it leads to greater interaction is debatable.  And I leave comments that may be considered facetious.Tongue out

 

Arvind Passey
from Delhi
10 years ago

Even a mere token presence by way of a 'I loved reading your post' is good enough... after all, not everyone can write tomes in comments. And not everyone is interested in analysis. Most of us are actually learning.

Keep leaving them....

Arvind Passey
Arvind Passey
from Delhi
10 years ago

The vital fact here is... visit blogs... read posts written by others... write comments that are analytical... and make sure that your blog has a reply system in place. :)

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

Absolutely +1.... but regarding "write comments that are analytical", I feel even a small phrase marking the presence of someone's visit is a good fuel for my blogging [Smile] 

Abhishek
Abhishek
from Allahabad
10 years ago

If you use Disqus to comment on blogs, it notfies you either by email or by a notification (no matter which site you are visiting).

Bhavana Lalwani
from Jodhpur
10 years ago

I seriously dislike this Disqus feature .. its  very much cumbersome .. many times when I liked the post very much and I wanted to say something but this silly feature stopped me ..

Bhavana Lalwani
Bhavana Lalwani
from Jodhpur
10 years ago

sometimes I do.. sometimes I dnt .. not every time I expect a reply not every time I feel like to give a reply .. coz many a times it seems very much formal .. I like discussions on genuine issues not just thank u,  wel come .. glad to see u here .. and bla bla bla

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

Exactly.... you can't always have an extended conversation... nor is it necessary [Smile]

Bhavana Lalwani
from Jodhpur
10 years ago

Anunoy .. hi fi Wink

Gaurab
Gaurab
from New Delhi
10 years ago

I made this point in the starting of the thread only that you must follow the comments through email, that's the best option. Cool

I always do it and many serious bloggers do it. Innocent

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

"must follow the comments"- this 'must' sounds too rigid isn't it? [confused smile]

Gaurab
from New Delhi
10 years ago

"must" here goes with the full statement and is not just directed to "follow the comments" Wink The purpose of the must is simple because if you want to follow the comments in blogger/blogspot then it is the only valid option. 

or you can remember all the blogs you commented and then follow them individually by going to the required post for checking the comments. "Seems tedious" Tongue out

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

Oh ok...

On most WP blogs, there is an option to follow the comment you just made, which would send you an email if anyone responds to your comment, IF you comment while signed in on your WP blog. I turn that off because I have multiple email ids and can do with less "notifications". However, WP also winks an orange indicator at me when I sign in on my blog. I then go and check out the comment.

Of course the Blogger / Blogspot thing is different. I find the comments feature there very annoying and WP won't give me a glowing orange indicator if I make a comment on one of these blogs. So I have to manually check.

And, yes I do go back and check. Saru Singhal said it. What's a blog without interaction? Recently traffic to my blog has jumped fantastically. However, comments have not. That is a disappointment to me. I want to have a conversation. I don't care for meaningless traffic numbers without interaction.

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

"Of course the Blogger / Blogspot thing is different. I find the comments feature there very annoying"- WTH! See Sharmaji, no one must bash my blogspot [Guarded smile]

Arvind Passey
Arvind Passey
from Delhi
10 years ago

@Ankit... The comments section on my blog sends an email not just to me but also to the person who has commented... and when I reply, an email with this info goes again to the concerned person.

Now this is what I expect on other blogs... it is the blog's duty to inform me that there is a reply to my comment. Look at it this way... I may be commenting on tens of posts daily and I cannot really keep going back to those blogs every day just to see if a reply is there or not. To take another example... if I comment on your blog and you reply after a week (for some valid reason)... do you expect me to keep going on your blog every day just to check if you've replied or not? This sounds unfair, doesn't it? But if I get an email from your blog informing me that there has been a reply to my comment, I will surely click and reach out... so you benefit by getting another visit from me.

Bloggers need to ensure that they take care of their visitors... and not expect visitors to pamper them. :)

Perfectly put forward Arvind Sir..Smile

Arvind Passey
Arvind Passey
from Delhi
10 years ago

By the way, my blog informs me by email the moment there is a comment or a reply or any sort of interaction... and so I make it a point to go and read the comment and reply as soon as I can.

I guess those who do not reply could be because they have not primed their blogs to inform them. So what happens is that if there is a post written a month back, a blogger wouldn't go checking every post of his to see if there is a new comment. With my blog, however, a comment even on a post written 5 years ago gets sent to me as an email.

Arvind Sir I am not asking when someone comments on your blog and you reply.

What my concern is when you comment on someone else blog, then do you visit it again and check if the blog owner has replied to your comment.

Saru Singhal
Saru Singhal
from Toronto
10 years ago

Yes, I do. What is blogging without meaningful interaction?

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

Exactly Saru [Smile]

Arvind Passey
from Delhi
10 years ago

You're right... and we need to speak our mind out after reading a post.

Yup!

Ranjith
Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

N/A - I don't comment Tongue out

seriously..Surprised

Anunoy Samanta
from Bardhaman
10 years ago

Rajni, be liberal buddy and give joy to others.... [businessman smile]

Ranjith
from hyderabad
10 years ago

Tongue out


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