Do we visit again to see the reply to our comment on a blogpost ?
We commnets on lot of blogposts in our daily life, but do we visit them the next or the same day to check the reply of Blog owner on it ?
Yup - with bioth Joomla and Drupal, it helps if you're an adminny type..
And Wordpress for the real deal
Joomla and Drupal, anyone?
They are even better than WordPress but only in modification and customization.. But somehow lacks the simplicity needed to woo the users to start using them and build up a Dummies community which wordpress have done..
Total newbie about website and blogs can start with WP but just reading few tutorial and following the guide with eyes closed.. That is not the case with Drupal, Joomla or such CMS.. They miss out on this..
Blogger is bad. Wordpress is equally bad.
A custom CMS built using Java EE to suit your needs is the best.
Few (one) thing which cannot be done in Wordpress:
Using same slug for two posts
so where is that good java CMS??
link pls..
A custom CMS
You have to build it yourself. Currently, I am tried to build one for my CS site [self promotion ]
blogspot and wp is for less nerdy people who doesn't know much coding.. is there any such java option ??
blogspot and wp is for less nerdy people who doesn't know much coding.. is there any such java option ??
This weekend, I will take a look at the CMSes listed in that wiki page and give my verdict
blogger is good i hate wordpress
you dont know yet ??? and called custom java cms better choice ?? i guess it would have been then by now we could hae seen one getting fame like wp..
Hunky custom = custom, not something that you can download and install like wp or blogger ( Not just java but any custom cms that suits your needs )
When it all starte,d WP was also a custom project but slowly it grew and people started using it hence it became a publicly available software for web publishing !!
What you are saying is you, your self developing one website only for your self.. Well, in that regards, I would use dreamwaver and design and keep publishing one as statis
I don't have idea what words in Mandarin you two are exchanging... but I visited Rajni's wiki link and got myself suffocated for 7 seconds [Sigh]
@AS..
It seems Rajni too got chocked and started make us confuse in that webmaster thread
Rajni!!! [Get a life dude style disgusted raised eyebrows]
Dunno about the "irrelevant", but "pointless waste of time" may be relevant
Yes... hence we won't waste our time and stick to blogspot till we develop Alzheimer one day (unfortunately if...)
sheesh!! I'm not asking you to change over....
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Yet.
'Yet' is irrelevant [big grin]
What's there? Better themes, with better fonts, better layouts. ok - the widgets are a wee bit disappointing, but they are not cluttery and they match the theme (for the freebie Wordpress.com WP). If you are on a self-hosted WP then you have a much better choice of widgets.
Comments - way better than forcing the G+ id.
Ultimately - I tried both and like Wordpress and find blogger / blogspot 'nnoying!
Blogspot Rocks ;)
I'm not going to change it in a decade.... not even in the next either... just little afraid to use the 'never'.... Sigh.... I find themes, fonts, widgets, commenting etc in blogspot sufficient to meet my needs... and yes, who's forcing g+ on you???
I wont change it either
blogspot dont force g+...its optional
I actually have blogs in both the platform and can say WP commenting system is better. Though I will win whichever side wins
Its like Orkut and Facebook..
People graduate from Orkut and then for higher, they turn to facebook, just like that, Blogspot is highschool, where as WP can be graduation, master, ph and so on..
There is nothing as simple as wordpress, yet there is nothing which is as customizable as wordpress...
You can customize Blogger too, as much as you want. For doers, sky is the limit, literally.
For someone like me who's been studying at both the schools (blogger and self hosted WP), it appears blogger is more of an easy platform to use. I don't know how and why people think WP to be better at customization, flexibility and ease of use.
Agreed that you need to get your hands dirty (really filthy) with blogger to get your work done the way you want, with blogger, have to go beyond the limits of a regular blogger who wants to just blog, that's it! But then, for such a blogger, WP too is limited.
During my journey through WP, taking a deeper than usual dive into the insides of WP, I learnt that doing things as simple as inserting your custom HTML, JavaScript and CSS code into one of your posts as I've been doing in my blogger blog, is a mammoth task in WP. Maybe, I don't know the right way to do it, but, I found this quite an annoying thing that I can't format my blogpost as I want. For doing so, I'll have to go deeper and make changes to a global stylesheet that manages my WP blog's formatting, or create a new one separately. Again, Wordpress (self hosted one) gives you the flexibility to do whatever you want, then again, you need to know basic world wide web coding languages including HTML, Javascript, CSS, PHP etc. If you know all these, you can get most of the stuff done in blogger as well.
Majority who goes for modification, doesn't seems to be in Blogger !!
If the community, which actually modify their blog beyond everyday tasks of common blogger, seems to prefer WP way more than they work under Blogger..
WP is the choice
Hunky, but what about the simple tasks that blogger allows and WP doesn't?
Like inserting your own HTML, CSS and Javascript code in your blog post, formatting the post the way you want, and also like copying and pasting the formatted text from MS Word to blogpost?
@CK..
Basic feature you said is also present in WordPress..
Check their posting pane, it allows you to switch between HTML and rich text editing format on fly also it sopports copy pasting from Word I find..
Please check again !!!
Sigh... now this thread needs a name change by affidavit "Blogspot vs Wordpress"
That reminded me.. AS needs space, so in terms of space
WordPress as blogging platform, provides 3GB..
Just like Blogspot, you can always use plug ins to utilize the Google Drive space too
Customisation / Theme development in blogger and wp are too different. Developing themes in wp is much easier - the templating system is the same as is with any custom build php website. Your code can be made modular and more maintainable. On blogger, everything has to go into a single file with nesting conditions one inside the other.
Things that can't be done on blogger -
Removing dates from permalinks
Server side processing
Things that can't be done on wp -
Using same slug for two posts
Hunky 15 gb> 3 gb [universal truth wala smile]
@AS..
Sorry dont mind, but check this,
Number of Pictures: Up to 1 GB of total storage, shared with Picasa Web. If you've upgraded to Google+, your photos will be stored in Google+ Photos, where you have 15GB of storage space shared with Gmail and Drive.
Actual space in blogger is 1GB, compare to WordPress where it is 3GB.. Now what Google Blogger allows is to share GDrive space to store images and files of your blog.. I am sorry but same can work with WordPress too.. You can use GDrive as your storage for uploading images and files then hot linking back to WordPress !!!
So there you have 3GB and 15GB GDrive..
Nothing special, infact technically Blogger has less space
Hunky regarding this I'll get back to you..... [Boman Irani style hasty escape]
@AS..
FYI.. -> https://support.google.com/blogger/answer/42348?hl=en
Thanks [Sigh]
Wondering what's there in WP [scratching, itching, bruising the scalp]
One think is for sure that the wordpress commenting system is really wonderful, hundred times better than the default blogspot commenting system.
Blogspot rocks blogspot rocks blogspot rocks............... [One man army march]
Blogspot rocks blogspot rocks blogspot rocks...............
Thanks for supporting Deka!
i''m supporting blogspot
Blogspot rocks blogspot rocks blogspot rocks
I have blogs in both the platforms hence I could actually tell the difffernce. And I will win whichever side wins
Yes Deka, it was a 'thank you' from blogspot's desk only....
Narasimha Hi5....
Gaurab, for the sake of personal safety join blogspot troop for now [Churchill's chuckle]
Curious to know how a Churchill's Chuckle would look like
http://mooselicker.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/winston-churchill-smoking-cigar.jpg
Kids always looking for "chance pe dance" [Sigh].....
Look, I'm an old man and my blog was on Blogger at one time. Once I discovered WP, boom, I could not wait to get off.
oh wait my plane is here, bye for now....
I do keep tab on the comments posted by me on my fav subject economics and politics Other than that no tabs just Hero Honda style
Open it
Write it
Forget it
Posting a comment and running away on a hero honda even before the blog owner notices ir
CK HH's very old ad slogan
Ranjith yes
Sure I do. It's nice to see people respond, but whether it leads to greater interaction is debatable. And I leave comments that may be considered facetious.
Even a mere token presence by way of a 'I loved reading your post' is good enough... after all, not everyone can write tomes in comments. And not everyone is interested in analysis. Most of us are actually learning.
Keep leaving them....
The vital fact here is... visit blogs... read posts written by others... write comments that are analytical... and make sure that your blog has a reply system in place. :)
Absolutely +1.... but regarding "write comments that are analytical", I feel even a small phrase marking the presence of someone's visit is a good fuel for my blogging [Smile]
If you use Disqus to comment on blogs, it notfies you either by email or by a notification (no matter which site you are visiting).
I seriously dislike this Disqus feature .. its very much cumbersome .. many times when I liked the post very much and I wanted to say something but this silly feature stopped me ..
sometimes I do.. sometimes I dnt .. not every time I expect a reply not every time I feel like to give a reply .. coz many a times it seems very much formal .. I like discussions on genuine issues not just thank u, wel come .. glad to see u here .. and bla bla bla
Exactly.... you can't always have an extended conversation... nor is it necessary [Smile]
Anunoy .. hi fi
I made this point in the starting of the thread only that you must follow the comments through email, that's the best option.
I always do it and many serious bloggers do it.
"must follow the comments"- this 'must' sounds too rigid isn't it? [confused smile]
"must" here goes with the full statement and is not just directed to "follow the comments" The purpose of the must is simple because if you want to follow the comments in blogger/blogspot then it is the only valid option.
or you can remember all the blogs you commented and then follow them individually by going to the required post for checking the comments. "Seems tedious"
Oh ok...
On most WP blogs, there is an option to follow the comment you just made, which would send you an email if anyone responds to your comment, IF you comment while signed in on your WP blog. I turn that off because I have multiple email ids and can do with less "notifications". However, WP also winks an orange indicator at me when I sign in on my blog. I then go and check out the comment.
Of course the Blogger / Blogspot thing is different. I find the comments feature there very annoying and WP won't give me a glowing orange indicator if I make a comment on one of these blogs. So I have to manually check.
And, yes I do go back and check. Saru Singhal said it. What's a blog without interaction? Recently traffic to my blog has jumped fantastically. However, comments have not. That is a disappointment to me. I want to have a conversation. I don't care for meaningless traffic numbers without interaction.
"Of course the Blogger / Blogspot thing is different. I find the comments feature there very annoying"- WTH! See Sharmaji, no one must bash my blogspot [Guarded smile]
@Ankit... The comments section on my blog sends an email not just to me but also to the person who has commented... and when I reply, an email with this info goes again to the concerned person.
Now this is what I expect on other blogs... it is the blog's duty to inform me that there is a reply to my comment. Look at it this way... I may be commenting on tens of posts daily and I cannot really keep going back to those blogs every day just to see if a reply is there or not. To take another example... if I comment on your blog and you reply after a week (for some valid reason)... do you expect me to keep going on your blog every day just to check if you've replied or not? This sounds unfair, doesn't it? But if I get an email from your blog informing me that there has been a reply to my comment, I will surely click and reach out... so you benefit by getting another visit from me.
Bloggers need to ensure that they take care of their visitors... and not expect visitors to pamper them. :)
Perfectly put forward Arvind Sir..
By the way, my blog informs me by email the moment there is a comment or a reply or any sort of interaction... and so I make it a point to go and read the comment and reply as soon as I can.
I guess those who do not reply could be because they have not primed their blogs to inform them. So what happens is that if there is a post written a month back, a blogger wouldn't go checking every post of his to see if there is a new comment. With my blog, however, a comment even on a post written 5 years ago gets sent to me as an email.
Arvind Sir I am not asking when someone comments on your blog and you reply.
What my concern is when you comment on someone else blog, then do you visit it again and check if the blog owner has replied to your comment.
Yes, I do. What is blogging without meaningful interaction?
Exactly Saru [Smile]
You're right... and we need to speak our mind out after reading a post.
Yup!
seriously..
Rajni, be liberal buddy and give joy to others.... [businessman smile]
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