Nothing is happening on inditalk or for that matter on the forum, i wonder why?
whenever I check into inditalk I only see 'yo', 'wassup', 'anybody there', 'i am'. But when someone posts a spam link someone is bound to pounce on that guy to get him banned. Is there only one activity on inditalk? If people are not active on indichat or the forum what is the admin or the moderators doing about it?(i) post links to interesting indiblogposts (even if it is your own) so that others read it and promote them
(ii) links to interesting video, article and site links
(iii) Notifications links
(iv) start a discussion, a chat...
(v) use it like twitter. C'mon you have 60 more characters to express yourself to the world.
(vi) observations and feed back
The suggestions i have made above maybe useless but I suppose most of you can come up with better ways to use the inditalk and the forum. I request the mods and the admin to inject some life into these two areas soon.
anyway some owners prefer their vehicle to be noise-free....
a detached spare part
Nothing is a nebulous word, and can mean different things to different people.
Be the change that you wish to see in the world ~ This place is nothing but a reflex of You.
Huh? Pl Spare me Arti.
Why Uday? You want to become a spare part?
It was not meant as an insult, you know that.
@leo- That is a great improvement on the earlier post, moderate and balanced, thank you.
This forum is by the members, of the members, for the members. The moderators are here to serve the forum and do everything that is needed to inspire the members to do more than just visit.
And not be like the public servant who has forgotten to serve the public and is self serving.
I don't know about others, but I am not here for Indiblogger. They're a business model and bloggers are a good and healthy part of it. I am only moderating for the people. So are others. Deeming moderators equivalent to public servants is insulting. But hey, anything goes!!!
Uday, you speak of experience and balance in comments and observations. I'll tell you my observations. I'm not jumping at your throat. I've been a member of Indiblogger for more than two years now. And been part of the forum since around a year, year and a half maybe. And a member of the moderators team since less than two months.
- You cannot push anyone to coming here. No. A forum, be it here, or any place else, is to discuss, and to solve problems. Indiblogger gives this forum to do so, but people come, they spam with their links and go off. Far from discussing, they just want to get that one extra pageview. Yes, I observe that any blogger wants to get their blog read, but if the forum is meant to help, and to discuss, then such links when spread across distract that discussion. There are umpteen bloggers in the Indi directory, but no one wants to actively participate. That is not because this forum is lacking innovation, or any interesting topic. It is because 1. Bloggers are people who are busy with their own lives also, and other than writing, they might not feel the need to come here to discuss issues that may not even intrigue them. There are topics to help on SEO, there are threads that have social network page links like FB pages and Twitter handles, there are fun threads that can be just relaxing and there are threads on contests, but not everyone knows what SEO is and if they did also, they might not want it; not everyone has an FB page for their blog or a Twitter handle, people relax in a different way, and some are not interested in contests at all (I'm one such person). 2. The feature to get that one extra pageview is Indivine. So bloggers mostly register, and then go to Indivine. If they are interested in contests, then they get that from the home page or Indivine itself, so they dont need to come to the forum.
- You observe moderators are balanced elsewhere. Here also, almost every one of us moderators are, and we look for the usefulness of a link before suggesting to remove it from a thread. Sometimes, it is useful, and helpful to the discussion. But plain promoting without anything is not. When I tell someone to remove their links, I tell why. And you maybe used to forums that you find better, but like Hemal has told, you are new to this forum. And sometimes, moderators patience is tested to the maximum limit by certain members. Much before I was a mod, I have been insulted by members for trying to help them get established in the forum, and doing it in a sensible manner. You yourself say moderators should decide whether they are members first, but being a member doesn't mean they can come on forum, do anything they please, hit out and expect to be welcomed with open arms. When such people are there, moderation is not easy. And yes, by keeping such threads and people away from a forum where there are some interesting discussions, I definitely am doing some good. If it is your opinion that that is because of mods here being amateurs, it is your opinion, but without knowing what was, and why some things are as it is, your generalizing the moderators and comparing to other forums isn't right.
- I'm sure you don't want to waste your time going through Inditalk archives, but if you scroll down Inditalk, there is a link to it. If you open it, and go back in time, say a month or two, you'll see how it was. There was a time when Inditalk would have 4 or 5 or even more people on it, discussing, interacting, greeting each other. There was a time when I used to be on it nearly the whole day, and I've been called the Inditalk resident by more than a fair share of Indibloggers. Why am I not there now? Life happened. Inditalk got blocked in office, and things got busy, and etc etc. Its the same story with people who were there before, and are on it now intermittently. The reason for basking in past glory is because it was glorious, and it will remain in the thoughts of those who were in that glorious and sometimes not glorious past. If you were not in it, you won't understand it, so me giving you a hundred reasons won't help. The past is dead and gone, but it shapes what we are now. If the past hasn't got this present, then you will not be as good as you are now. For any effort to be collective, it is not just the moderators and admins who need to be collective. Any effort will bear fruit, but without rules and nurturing, such an effort will be like a jet of water being shot head on the plant. What we moderators are doing here is ensuring that that doesn't happen.
@animesh - ok, some mods, not all. sorry about that.
@ anunoy - Yeah obscene, lewd movements of the pelvis can be interesting to the voyeur but do they belong here? dry hump is an obscene act which is openly done, even by celebrities in the west. Like it has been said before ' modern dance is a vertical expression of a horizontal intention' but where do you place this other than smut.
hehe yea... btw why to make an issue about an uttered word by a fellow blogger... this is a forum right?... let's just bla bla anything until it really sounds aggressive against somebody or offensive to somebody.... already we have a prof. arena where we have to present only the polished back of ourselves keeping all our thorns masked... now if we have to be so careful in choosing words in our comfy space too then it'll be like sleeping with a necktie... 
... Now I feel we should take things more casually over here and try to remain in a cool spirit.... cheers! 
@ sorceror 'dry hump' is not profanity in the literal sense of the word.
People, go to youtube and type' dry hump' and see what videos you get. I will not try to educate you because this is the age of information and anyone can get access to whatever he is interested in, thanks to the internet. But I can suggest that you educate yourself like I and most others do, self help. first step is to practice moderation at least when you are on this forum
And dear Mod,Please cut out the condescending tone of your post and be careful about how you post or else this discussion will degenerate into an argument and waste of time.
oh interesting youtuve link man!
@hemal No one is at each others throats. If my ideas don't make sense to you that is out of my control. your ideas are good and they are being practiced by the more popular forums where the moderators are .. well moderate and not some fundamnentalists that populate this forum. The idea here seems to put down the others with smart aleck comments and downright crass lingo picked up from the west.
I am new here but we are new to the concept of forums and how a forum is run by admin. and moderators who are far more experienced and balanced in their comments and observations. Obviously mods here are amateurs and give the impression that they are doing this forum a favor. But not to worry, these things get sorted out over a period of time as people learn and mend their ways.
Uday, please do not pass general remarks on all moderators. I am sure you have not interacted with all mods here. Generalisation has never worked in anyone's favour.
I have come up with an idea that may help all of us bring the forum alive. Lets see how the idea does.
I think we all should stop getting on to everyone else's throat. This is not the first time we have got into agruements.
@Udaya I think you need to take a small breather, look around the forum and then come back. we have had people come very strongly when we stopped them from promoting links on forum or the IndiTalk, and hence this would certainly not be the first time. You do bring up a good point, but there is nothing anyone can forcefully get it done from other bloggers / members of this forum.
Come up with ideas that makes sense... create a post that would attract people to reply... but posting links and vidoes is no way to achieve it.
PS: with all due respect to your long enough experience on Internet, I believe you are new here and may not know how it had been, has been, and will be.
Anyways, as you said things are dull around here these days. So as long as you don't spam or flame, we are glad of any entertainment you may like to provide to the members.
I have been on the internet long enough to understand the norms. Quite simply , I like to discuss but try to stay away from arguments. I see reactions and try hard not to respond in a similar vein, it is easier said than done, because writers are an egoistic lot, you know.
I am an aspiring writer and not a performer. If my posts entertain you, it is purely incidental, and I expect to be entertained too.
So if you think you will sit back and enjoy I will begin to question your reasons for basking in past glory. The past is dead and gone and we are as good as we do now. The effort has to be collective.
@ FOOL
Bring him on Fool. But you threw him out, right? And you remind me of a few yourself, you know.
Why would I throw him out? He is not active these days.That is all.
Somehow I find lot of similarity in though process between him and you. So I feel you both will get alonh hansomely.
@sorcerorI respect you for being a moderator of this forum
'Moderators are not being paid nor they are getting out so its unfair that moderators will have to listen to all this' Really, if you have an issue with non payment you know what to do? Don't use that as a stick to beat us with.
Being a moderator on this forum is an honor and that is why you are doing it, I think. if you feel you should be paid, take it up and get it resolved with those who will have answers.
But as a member I have my views to share and I do that because i think I belong here. this forum is as much mine as anybody else's. we may have differences and we can always sort them out by way of discussions and explanations.
"Well, moderators (I am 1 too, btw) can dryhump a rock but I doubt that's going to end well"(your words) ???
I know most members know what 'dryhum*' means but they are moderate enough not to use it, and why are you using such words here. It belongs to the crude west and let it stay there. There is no need to import it into our lingo. If you use such words how will you stop someone from hyperlinking to a graphic video(s)
from youtube about the practical demo of the word 'hum*'. I can do it now, you know, the hyperlink tab is not too from here. And i can conveniently blame it on you
Now what is the 'hum*' of 'dryhum*' doing here on this forum . if some one uses 'fuc* or "wtf" will you be able to stop it? and how?
I have given the members of this forum a feedback, and I am not accusing you of any mis deed. If the members respond to my thread I will respect their views so long as they respect mine.
Do you always find some advantage when conviniently misunderstanding what people say or you don't understand people properly? :P Read properly and slowly where I said I should be paid? The way you think is the same way reporters in India tv and propaganda channel think!
What I meant was that people should learn to moderate themselves. Bloggers are trying to fool moderators who are bloggers in a blogger forum by putting blog ads. Seriously??? People keep on spamming and conviniently find ways to sneak in links, genuine people will be discouraged and leave. then the spammers will spam eachother. forum is gone down the dumps. Is it benefitting anyone?????Everyone has the right to share views, but should be based on some logic. Are the moderators keeping the forums clean, are they not? Are the admins doing contests and meets are they not? There are some things they can do, mods can do more if they have the right mod powers- but members also have to do the part. Some threads are either "you scratch my back and i scratch yours" promotional threads or contests threads, rest when once in a blue moon when people have issues or need of creating thread of certain needs, that's what happens. Look at the people participating in contests and look at the people actually posting in forums. Members also need to play a part- and its usually, they need to do it first. Yeah, my words. Dry hump is not profanity :P. You might want to check that first. And where did I say you were accusing? I asked you series of questions- you didn't answer :P. Rather you're trying not to answer the questions! :PPresent points with some practical and logical approach.
@udayakumar - There used to be a nice person called Jaykumar. You remind me of him. I think you should find him and bring him back to Indiblogger and both of you should work together to make this a better place for everyone.
LOL ! Groan...Now I don't know where to run.
Hi Hemal shah,indi talk is a chat forum and people saying hi, ho, hello is hardly the way to go forward. I put up my suggestions and if you have better suggestions , do come forward and share them. I will not only accept them, I will implement them. But what suggestions do I get? Zilch!
I don't know if we should be tolerant enough to allow this chat forum to settle down to groans, yawns and half hearted attempts at connecting. If you have nothing to say , you have nothing to say.
But what got my goat is this Animesh calling me a troll. what have I done which looks like troll activity.
I went through the Inditalk archices and I think I read between lines when you wrote about that commodity trading and made a comment which crossed the limit.
I sincerely apologize for it.
Ok. I should not be placing links to my indivine post in order to get someone to read my posts.
@ Animesh (only animesh please)I am scared to go back to your chat archives. The 'yo', the 'hi' will put me to sleep, don't mind. I don't look back and this is how I find my way by barging on regardless.
Yeah, I have gone through a lot of threads, faqs and am beginning to understand that this place is laid back and far too relaxed.
I wanted to stir things up but seem to have offended a few people. Sorry about that but I think I should go back to my writing and come back after some time.
You seem to be the defensive type and I am the unorhodox basher, should find a lot of interesting things to share...maybe later.
Hey Uday, thank you for being sporty enough to understand the difference between defensive and unorthodox (i hope that is what you ment) basher.
@Ani we can be a bit more tolerant of certain comments - but at the same time enforce the things which are basics of the forum and of the IndiTalk.
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