India Vs Australia Vs Sri Lanka - 2011... Discuss Here
Australia series beckons Team India now. Its a very important away series after they were beaten 4-0 in England. What should be the
- team selection
- pre match strategies
- who should play, who dropped
- live scores, commentary
- results discussion, etc..
We have been whitewashed again, really has been a pathetic performance by team India.
Will the ODI's give something to cheer about??
Discuss:)
Reason: :)
and BEAT India again :P
OK. Last day last rites? Hilarious wickets! Kohli running himself out with five balls to spare.. Dravid for a change not being bowled.. Last innings of Tendulkar going out glove pad.. I wonder how it reached last day...
Tendulkar I hope won't get the century in a ODI vs Aus or Sri.. If all goes well, and governments approve, the next series for India, (Tests) is Pakistan in India. (March/April). It'd be the ultimate time to get his century.. Home crowd, fiercest rivals...
It will be poetic justice if he has retire without completing his hundredth century.
He'll get it. No one's talking of retirement, and the luck of the draw is in his favor. Many matches, just the one performance needed. Best he gets it out of the way sooner than later.
what am I getting for predicting RIGHT???? ???? ??? 
Hey, we will bounce back!! Its just a matter of time, happens with the best of us, it a passing phase! Lets stand with them and support them instead of bashing them like this, will we?
@Arti - if they are like you and me, all that is fine. When they get so much money, celebrity status and all that when they win, they must be ready for brickbats when they lose badly.
I am more for a balanced approach. But that would mean less money and fanfare when they win also. Can't have one without the other.
True TF, i agree.
But the point here is, who gives them all that money, celebrity status and fame? Who goes over the moon when they win those trophies for our country and make us proud?
We are wrong in doing all the fanfane, hype and hoopla then, and we are wrong in over-criticizing/bashing-them/writing-them-off like this now. And two wrongs never make a right. In my opinion, It is not entirely their fault. Too much presssure for a game, and you cannot keep winning all the time. The so called fans of the Indian cricket team are also to blame for this pathetic performance overseas.
Arti, we will "bounce back" is what we've been saying ever since the 2010 tour of South Africa.. That's not right. Forget the celebrity status, the wealth, the hype, the hoopla, all that! Let them earn the least.. 1-1 vs RSA (3 tests), 1-0 vs WI (3 tests, one of which they gave up when they where in winning position), 0-4 vs ENG and then this 0-4 vs AUS.. These are not indicative of a passing phase. We're fans, admirers of the game of cricket, and as much as the opposition against them played well, they played that much more poorer! We cheered them each of these series, prayed they would do well, even prayed for rain so that they won't be losing! If we did all that, then we got every right to tell them that they need to do better! We are the people who go over the moon when they win.. yes. But winning the World Cup (in the Indian subcontinent again) is one thing, to take that form out of the subcontinent and show that championship material there, that's a whole different ball-game!
We are to blame too, for we expect. It's been 2 test wins in 13 tests, 8 successive losses, and 10 matches overall since India won a test away from Indian soil. One or two wins away, just to say, we did that. That's not too much to expect. Not at all.
All izz well? Quite the opposite, not that they are worrying. If they're quoting that they beat Aussies at home 2-0 and won the world cup every time they lose, then the tactics for overseas, away from the subcontinent will never develop at all. Time to add a word and say, ALL IZZ NAUT WELL.. and try to remove that word soon.
Finally Indian team was leaderless and rudderless down under. Anyways it is a good wake up call for the team not to pat themselves under the false pretext of being No1 test team. The time has come to blood rank youngsters who may not be featuring in the current team. Indian selectors have to sit and think of team for the future we can stretch Sachin for another 3 years, Shewag another 2 to 3 years, Dhoni another 3 years, Gambhir another 4 years, Bhajji seems to aiming for comeback for another year or so, Yuvraj too with his health problems may not be fit candidate for long term in test. Zaheer khan is getting older and slower, Ishant looked jaded. Test cricket is a totally a different ball game. It requires patience, stamina, technique, and pride to play Test format, can we see some unknown names into the team of reserves.
Indian team was leaderless.. Yes indeed, Umeshji. And no, they lost that status long back, after the 0-4 drubbing they had vs England. I agree with you that we need to think of blooding the youngsters like Virat, Rohit, Pujara etc. But why that "stretch" needed? Sachin for 3 years? He's turning 39 this April. By the time he's stretched to 42 and making the already near invincible records even more out of reach, another young talent like he once was, that talent is missing out a chance. He has been, and still is, a legend, an icon in Indian cricket, and an ambassador for the game like no one else possibly can be. But even he needs to call time soon IMO. We need to see some new names, the likes of the Rainas, the Pujaras and the Aarons play more. If we're waiting for the experienced to retire, and they never do, the youngsters would never receive a chance.
At times, I dont mind his technique. Calmness in face of defeats and controversies is good for a captain. And it'll keep others calm too. But I think he should also accept that there is a problem and solve it, rather than say, it's okay. We lost this, but we can win the next. He said it after Melbourne, Sydney and Perth tests... just didn't happen. If he's retiring, I think it's okay.. We can think of bringing another talented player in.
what a series it was ^^ , the team that was ranked #1 in tests jus a couple of months ago is being whitewashed by other teams :)
what a fall :)
is this the after effect of IPL?? that Indians got unbeatable at home cause we paly here all the time and became thrash abroad? :)
can't blame the older players for this anyway, age may have caught up with them now :)
and as fo Aus :) they saved India the shame of being defeated 3 tests in a row by innings margin by batting 1 more innings :) which was actually never necessary and even they might have known that. and Sachin's 100th century?? was it more important than India winning? that people were all eagerly waiting to see it happen
Its still ranked #1 if u count only home form 
IPL? It got over long back. 9 months ago. I dont think blaming a 80 day stretch of T20 for a whitewash 9 months down the road is an excuse or reason for a whitewash three quarters of the year later!
Unbeatable at home? Possibly. Even England are strongest at home, coz the support is so. Even in India, the support for India is such. But in the end, its how the team plays.
No blame on the older players? Of course not. They're just earning their place, like the others are. But 38 years of age.. surely it'd catch them up. Do we have their replacementes ready and blooded? Sadly, of course not.
Aussies batting again in second innings of last test? Not to save India shame. No. Not at all.. To give their bowlers a rest. And it was necessary. Indian top order was quite well rested when their first innings ended at 272 a/o, and Siddle & co were tired having bowled most of the day. So enforcing follow on would have been giving India the advantage, and their top order a go at the tired bowlers. Clarke was smart.. but make no mistake, 298 runs defeat is still quite big, even if there is no "innings & " preceding it.
I agree with TF. It'd be poetic justice if he were to retire with 99 hundreds! a 100th 100 in a lost test in a series white wash is worthless to him too.
Disagree on the Gayle part, DS. He was sought by IPL team of Bangalore only after his negotiations and etc. with the WICB didn't come to fruition. Also, most of the WI players in current team are 30 or under, with Gayle, Chanderpaul and Brendan Nash being major exceptions. WICB are rotating its players nicely. And while their results may be mixed, holding the "then" top ranked team in Tests to two draws was no little achievement!
I'm sure DS will edit this later, but in the meanwhile, please shift to the ODI thread and spread the positivity again there in regards to that! Let's not dwell too much at present on the Test squad, and cheer on the ODI squad when they begin Part 2 of their Agneepath down under! Cheers!
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